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Police to Deploy Spy Drones

Postby Hammer » Sun May 13, 2012 10:32 am

Police deployment of RC drones (UA) is beginning in the US, and is likely to become a fact of life in Oz as well, for "surveillance, searches and car chases."

Police may deploy spy drones

Sounds like fun! Except, of course, for the privacy concerns.
So far I'm thinking that the benefits outweigh the disadvantages.
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Re: Police to Deploy Spy Drones

Postby Russell » Sun May 13, 2012 11:01 am

Is it allowed to shoot these down?

After all, it is close to an Olympic sport...
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Re: Police to Deploy Spy Drones

Postby Hammer » Sun May 13, 2012 11:09 am

Russell wrote:Is it allowed to shoot these down?

After all, it is close to an Olympic sport...

Shooting down police aircraft?
I kinda think that might get you into some trouble (police tend to be a humorless lot).
But there's the potential for some very cool counter-drone development there. :ugeek:
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Re: Police to Deploy Spy Drones

Postby Hammer » Thu May 24, 2012 1:54 pm

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Re: Police to Deploy Spy Drones

Postby Russell » Thu May 24, 2012 7:30 pm



So my previous question should have been "is it allowed to shoot back?"

But seriously, this raises serious questions.
The main reason why a police officer shoot a suspect
is to protect lives. Can an operator of a drone judge
such an issue from a remote location?

Then, what is the next step? Automate these things,
such that no operator is necessary any more?
(visions of ROBOCOP scenes)
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Re: Police to Deploy Spy Drones

Postby Hammer » Thu May 24, 2012 8:02 pm

Russell wrote:But seriously, this raises serious questions.
The main reason why a police officer shoot a suspect
is to protect lives. Can an operator of a drone judge
such an issue from a remote location?

Yes, that seems to be the main objection, and a very reasonable one it is.
There are problems with using them for surveillance, let alone enforcement.

Scary stuff.
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Re: Police to Deploy Spy Drones

Postby Hammer » Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:45 pm

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Re: Police to Deploy Spy Drones

Postby Jack » Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:56 pm

It's just one of the sickest things out there. Amazing how citizens have no problem with it. Some of these "Heroes" are actually applying for workers comp because of the mental stress it causes them. People who want to kill each other should be forced to fight with spoons, that would end war real quick. Pussies.
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Re: Police to Deploy Spy Drones

Postby Hugh Jørgen » Tue Jun 26, 2012 5:02 pm

Drones vulnerable to terrorist hijacking, researchers say
A small surveillance drone flies over an Austin stadium, diligently following a series of GPS waypoints that have been programmed into its flight computer. By all appearances, the mission is routine.

Suddenly, the drone veers dramatically off course, careering eastward from its intended flight path. A few moments later, it is clear something is seriously wrong as the drone makes a hard right turn, streaking toward the south. Then, as if some phantom has given the drone a self-destruct order, it hurtles toward the ground. Just a few feet from certain catastrophe, a safety pilot with a radio control saves the drone from crashing into the field.

From the sidelines, there are smiles all around over this near-disaster. Professor Todd Humphreys and his team at the University of Texas at Austin's Radionavigation Laboratory have just completed a successful experiment: illuminating a gaping hole in the government’s plan to open US airspace to thousands of drones.

They could be turned into weapons.

“Spoofing a GPS receiver on a UAV is just another way of hijacking a plane,” Humphreys told Fox News.
In other words, with the right equipment, anyone can take control of a GPS-guided drone and make it do anything they want it to...


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/06/ ... z1ystVusGP
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Re: Police to Deploy Spy Drones

Postby Hammer » Wed Aug 08, 2012 8:41 am

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton holds a small U.S.-made drone that the Ugandan military uses in Somalia to fight al-Qaeda linked militants, during a demonstration and briefing at Kasenyi Military Base in Kampala August 3, 2012.

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Hmm ... about the same size as my Fun Cub ... (not Hillary, the plane).
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Re: Police to Deploy Spy Drones

Postby Gaspard de Coligny » Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:30 pm

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Re: Police to Deploy Spy Drones

Postby Hammer » Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:02 pm

I was most interested that this little military drone just looks a garden variety RC plane. A trainer at that. Looks can be deceiving, apparently.
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Re: Police to Deploy Spy Drones

Postby Gaspard de Coligny » Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:52 pm

And why would you need anything different ?
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Re: Police to Deploy Spy Drones

Postby Hammer » Wed Aug 08, 2012 2:59 pm

Gaspard de Coligny wrote:And why would you need anything different ?

I guess it depends on what you're trying to accomplish. If it's something like surveillance, and with the state of current camera technology, that's probably all you really need, although I would have expected something bigger for stability and endurance.

Endurance is the main thing. A little toy like that wouldn't get very far, but of course if it doesn't need to go very far then that becomes a non-issue. I assume it's disposable as well.

I doubt that thing would be required to carry a payload.
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Re: Police to Deploy Spy Drones

Postby Gaspard de Coligny » Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:15 pm

It's all aboot how it's deployed. Field toys for close air recon usually need to be able to fit in a trooper backpack and are line of sight control only. Stuff like predators and reapers need a real runway satcom links and air cooled trailer mounted control post. (and are most certainly hangar queens).

Like for real warfare... you need flexibility from SR71 to Skymaster driven by a darky with googles... (insert Bat21 ref here)
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